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Tenant88

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« on: February 03, 2022, 12:20:43 PM »
I am
Looking for advice as to wether this is normal, ok and wether it seems strange.

Moved into a property in September 2021 before collecting the keys I asked wether the landlord could give me a copy of the tenancy agreement to which he said he would then he turned up without it and asked why I needed it, I explained that I needed to provide it to universal credit (which he knows I claim) he seemed unhappy with this and said he would get me a copy, he then sent me a photo of the tenancy agreement and still won’t give me a physical copy.

After getting the keys he stressed to me that if any neighbours ask for his contact details I’m not to give them out (which I wouldn’t but it seemed odd)

There’s keys to the porch he hasn’t given me and also to some patio doors, i still get post delivered her to at least 8 different name including his.

There’s things that need replacing and repairing that he keeps saying will be done but then doesn’t get back to me about it. I’m
Paying £1695 rent and something just seems off so I want to know is it normal that he’s not giving me a physical copy of the agreement!

And when I signed, he only had the signature page with him, I know I probably shouldn’t have signed but I was in a desperate situation and needed to move ASAP.

Thanks for reading!

Hippogriff

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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2022, 01:00:07 PM »
Of course it's off.

You don't need us to tell you that... something is not right here at all.

How can you even have a clue about your obligations as a Tenant if you cannot see the Tenancy Agreement? There is tangible benefit to the Landlord in you having this... not like I'm saying I've even heard of a Landlord not providing it. The whole idea is ludicrous.

Did you have any kind of Inventory and / or Schedule of Condition?
Did you pay a Deposit? If so, did you get documentation about it being Protected?
How are you getting Universal Credit if you can't even provide a proper copy of the Tenancy Agreement? Is our benefits system really this lax?

At the very best, one can assume he's got a residential mortgage on the property and is letting it out against the rules of his mortgage.
At the very worst... well... the mind races with possibilities... tax evasion, mortgage fraud, Deposit non-protection, benefit fraud (possibly), businesses being run from there, debts effectively tagged to that property.
« Last Edit: February 03, 2022, 03:21:50 PM by Hippogriff »

Tenant88

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« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2022, 01:03:52 PM »
No Inventory, the property was in awful condition when I moved in.

There was no deposit but he had me pay the first months rent on signing then another month upfront when I collected the keys. Like I said I was very desperate to move quickly.

With universal credit it was all online so I uploaded the photo he sent me then you have to provide photo proof of you holding a passport outside the property, but the road sign, amongst other things.

Inspector

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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2022, 01:09:56 PM »
You might want to look into contacting the council and making them aware.  If the area requires a landlord license then the landlord is likely in breach of this.  None of this really adds up.

Tenant88

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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2022, 01:31:11 PM »
It’s really difficult to explain it all as well because when I say it all out loud it just screams red flags, but like I said I was in a very desperate situation and needed to move quickly and it was the only place that came up that was ready to move into fast.

Tenant88

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« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2022, 02:33:41 PM »
Quote from: Hippogriff on February 03, 2022, 01:00:07 PM
Of course it's off.

You don't need us to tell you that... something is not right here at all.

How can you even have a clue about your obligations as a Tenant if you cannot see the Tenancy Agreement? There is tangible benefit to the Landlord in you having this... not like I'm saying I've even heard of a Landlord not providing it. The whole idea is ludicrous.

Did you have any kind of Inventory and / or Schedule of Condition?
Did you pay a Deposit? If so, did you get documentation about it being Protected?
How are you getting Universal Credit if you can't even provide a proper copy of the Tenancy Agreement? Is our benefits system really this lax?

At the very best, one can assume he's got a residential mortgage on the property and it letting it out against the rules of his mortgage.
At the very worst... well... the mind races with possibilities... tax evasion, mortgage fraud, Deposit non-protection, benefit fraud (possibly), businesses being run from there, debts effectively tagged to that property.

I have had post addressed to a business, a chicken shop judging by the name.

heavykarma

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« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2022, 10:20:15 AM »
Yes,very suspicious.I would contact the council,and they can decide if they report to police.Keep records of all communications,and hang onto all mail to hand over to the authorities.Does the landlord or anyone come to collect such mail? They could be using the place as a mail drop.
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