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Whilst being a long time Landlord myself, Im curious to understand the following;

My 86 year old mom has moved into a care home on November 2nd - and I gave 1 months notice on her sheltered accommodation flat ending November 30th.

Her old rent for the flat included the following monthly charges on top of rent;

Service Charge = £246.11
Support Charge = £28.94
Heating/Hot Water Charge = £45.35
Water Charge = £6.71

Total = £327.11

So, my question is - if she wasn't living at the property for a whole month, is she liable to pay for these £327.11 of services she has not used in any way? (all utilities were turned off)

She paid for her own electric and we're aware (begrudgingly) that she has to pay for a months worth of Standing Charges.

Thanks for your feedback.

It'll depend on the wording of her contract, there's no obvious "rule" that applies that I know of.
The issue is usually that contracts don't cover moving out mid month, so there's nothing.

I think you got a good deal on the sheltered accommodation, not that expensive. 

They will tell you that they had to be prepared to provide the services if she came back and needed them.

Also they could not provide them to someone else, As a landlord in the 100k per annum sector I am sure you can afford it.

There is something far worse CARE HOMES (especially those owned by hedge funds).

They do the same when they die, except at first they say "take your time, come clear out your mother's possessions when you feel ready"  then they charge you a full month from the date you take the things home and give them the vacant possession. 

£8k a month plus the "extras" she did not use.

Pay your mortgage, get the financial security of owning your own home, but really all you are doing is saving up to pay the care home or to pay the Council to provide 15m in the morning and at night while they feed them on the commode.

Quote from: South-West on November 29, 2024, 09:49:48 AMWhilst being a long time Landlord myself, Im curious to understand the following;

My 86 year old mom has moved into a care home on November 2nd - and I gave 1 months notice on her sheltered accommodation flat ending November 30th.

Her old rent for the flat included the following monthly charges on top of rent;

Service Charge = £246.11
Support Charge = £28.94
Heating/Hot Water Charge = £45.35
Water Charge = £6.71

Total = £327.11

So, my question is - if she wasn't living at the property for a whole month, is she liable to pay for these £327.11 of services she has not used in any way? (all utilities were turned off)

She paid for her own electric and we're aware (begrudgingly) that she has to pay for a months worth of Standing Charges.

Thanks for your feedback.

Quote from: David on December 01, 2024, 11:43:35 PMPay your mortgage, get the financial security of owning your own home, but really all you are doing is saving up to pay the care home or to pay the Council to provide 15m in the morning and at night while they feed them on the commode.

Exactly right.

Any parent who's just cleared their mortgage in their 50s should immediately put the property in trust for their kids. Leave it much later and it will be considered a deprivation of assets should a parent need to go into care later.

You either have to be very wealthy or next to broke in this Country to get through the care system.
 

Quote from: David on December 01, 2024, 11:43:35 PMThey will tell you that they had to be prepared to provide the services if she came back and needed them.

Also they could not provide them to someone else,

They were aware at the end of October that mom would not be back during the November notice period as she'd actually moved into a nearby care home operated by that same Company.

Well just like you they will rely on the terms of the contract, such as you must give X days notice and face South South West when giving it.

There is a difference between being aware and being made aware formerly under the clauses of the contract.

It is small potatoes for a person of your calibre.

Quote from: South-West on December 02, 2024, 09:17:25 AM

Quote from: David on December 01, 2024, 11:43:35 PMThey will tell you that they had to be prepared to provide the services if she came back and needed them.

Also they could not provide them to someone else,

They were aware at the end of October that mom would not be back during the November notice period as she'd actually moved into a nearby care home operated by that same Company.

Quote from: David on December 02, 2024, 11:32:45 PMIt is small potatoes for a person of your calibre.

That's two sarcastic comments you've thrown my way - let me know the problem you clearly have