How much can l claim from previous landlord? Multi-threaded case

Hi there, l'd like to paste a massive case summary l have written up against a previous landlord. I need advice as per the thread title (rather, l want to know what l can claim for, and how much l can claim, and what assistance l can get with my court fees i.e. reduction)

The landlord has caused the lion's share of my deposit to be frozen by the DPS.

The landlord has since then made several failed money claims against me about the same matter.

I now want to make a claim against the landlord. What i want to achieve with this claim is:

I want my deposit unfrozen and restored to me.
I want compensation for the time spent in writing up my copious and elaborate defence / claim
I want compensation for being harrassed by the landlord via the money claims
I want compensation for the landlord issuing a falsified Section 21 to harrass me
I want compensation for the landlord forcing me to live in a home after it had become a hard hat area
I want compensation for the landlord allowing the ceiling to become mouldy
I want the landlord jailed for contempt of court, because he engaged in monkey business using various aliases and made patently false claims as part of his money claims
I want the landlord to be forced to remove mention of good ethics from his advertising
I want compensation for chronic mental health problems triggered by my dealings with the landlord though i'll admit this will be hard to prove
I want a Civil Restraint Order (CRO) issued against the landlord preventing him in any of his incarnations from issuing further claims against me on this matter


Please may l have permission to paste the entire covering letter for the case? It's fairly large, 30,872 words, but it's fairly well categorised and therefore accessible, meaning you don't have to read through it from start to finish.
I've sanitised it of sensitive data.

Sorry,but this does sound like you have become rather obsessed,and lost sight of what is realistic.If you have got rent arrears or caused damage the landlord is within his rights to claim against your deposit.You in turn can challenge this through the normal route.There is no way anyone on here or anywhere else is going to wade through 30,000 words of your claims.You may feel very angry,but I would be amazed if a solicitor would encourage you to pursue this.You could get free advice from the CAB.I think it is time to put this behind you and concentrate on  your life now and the future.

Hi there Inspector, thank you for your responses.
The OP of mine was not the matter itself, but a summary of what i want to happen. I was asking permission to post the matter itself.

Sounds like a potential legal case here. If you go through the ADR then they will only make decisions on the individual deposit deductions.  They will not compensate you for time or anything else.  They will simply judge if the deposit deduction is correct.

I would refuse ADR on the grounds that the landlord had already made the same case against me thrice via HMCTS, and in his first Money Claim via HMCTS he refused an award from me for £50 which was his own quote for cleaning my flat once l left.
Alternatively, l may accept ADR but only on my terms, i.e. a reduced claim amount, as is my right.

So if you want more than your deposit deduction then you'll need to take legal advice.  Bare in mind the courts are backed up right now so will take a very long time to make a decision.

Thank you. I was hoping l could circumvent this by posing the matter here.
I have already had some legal advice from the local university's legal outreach team (law students looking for real life cases). They have advised me that l may have a claim for the house becoming a hard hat zone, and for the mould. A few other matters had since cropped up though e.g. the harrassment via Money Claims.

Your decision is do you accept to go through the ADR or do you want to go through the courts? If you go through the ADR then you need to upload your side of the argument through the deposit website and they'll decide on your deposit.  You won't have any options for compensation.

Oh no, if you meant ADR via the DPS, no, we are way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way past that stage. I have taken this step by step. Bear in mind that we've just passed the 3rd failed Money Claim by the landlord on the exact same matter. So as you see, DPS is way back in the past.
I did not accept ADR via the DPS because the matter was way greater than the landlord's trumped up charges against my deposit. Even if were to purely deal with those charges, there wouldn't have been enough room in the console to make my defence, so l refused ADR as is my right.
For clarity, the landlord was accusing me of water-damaging the entire kitchen unit, costing him almost £400 to replace. However, l had been warning him about water run off for over 2 years and an employee doing a property inspection even told me it wasn't my fault, because the kitchen sink had no surround tray, and the entire flat was sloped away from the kitchen sink, due to subsidence or something. It was such that you'd have a hard time balancing on one leg. The landlord also reneged on his emailed £50 cleaning quote (via his own affiliated cleaners) by changing it to £140, plus an extra £50 for "pro" oven clean (i had barely used the oven, nor was i told it needed special attention during pre-move inspection, and l swear it would have just needed a wipe with mr. muscle) which he later changed to "pro" carpet clean because ... welll .... shrugs. Add a £50 admin fee here, a £50 admin fee there, and you eventually get to >£600. So l refused.

By the way, this isn't a debate point (sorry heavykarma, hippo, but your remarks are too personal, i know you will be outraged to hear this, but l took a quick orbit of your forum before posting here and i noted the ones to avoid, and i do see you take relish in this style of conversation, very personal jabs. That is all l'm going to say on the matter and yes i know, cue your friends, flying harpies, insults, then threadlock. But i'm hoping to get something useful before that happens, from other people. See you.

I want my deposit unfrozen and restored to me - Either go through the ADR or state you want to bypass the ADR and get legal advice.  Both options means you won't be getting the deposit anytime soon and there is no guarantee you'll get the full amount

Alright, never mind the DPS for now. As l say, this list was not the matter itself, but a list of what i want pursuant to the matter, which i haven't been given permission to post.

I want compensation for the time spent in writing up my copious and elaborate defence / claim - 100% won't get this through the ADR and in my limited legal experience I doubt you'll get this by taking legal action.

The landlord claimed for this in one of his money claims against me.

I want compensation for being harrassed by the landlord via the money claims - unlikely in my opinion.  The landlord is making deductions.  They are either correct or they aren't.  I don't see how this constitutes harrassment.

I am not just making a case about the deposit and its risible deductions.
The Money Claims i feel were harrassing because they were on the exact same matter, each time.
The first claim he abandoned, by not paying the actual hearing fee. I think he just wanted my side of the evidence.
The 2nd and 3rd claim were identical, but with aliases switched about (he never used his real name, though i know it as he is the boss of the letting agency). Each of these were struck out by the judge and certified as completely without merit. One of the judge's objections were that there was monkey business with aliases (pp).

I want compensation for the landlord issuing a falsified Section 21 to harrass me - get legal advice.  Again it doesn't sound like harrassment.  If you have already moved out then I see no reason to go over the notice.

What i mean is, it was a falsified Section 21, it wasn't even a Section 21, but a document designed to cause fear plus it was a document falsely claiming to be a section 21 as i say. There had never been an EPC given in any case.
This is why i call it harrassment and i certainly felt harrassed, very deeply disturbing.

I want compensation for the landlord forcing me to live in a home after it had become a hard hat area - get legal advice.  If there were works going on in the area then you could have contacted the council about the property being dangerous or uninhabitable.  But given the limited information provided and no action at the time I doubt you'll be due compensation for this.

There were no works going on. One day the front door broke (i actually believe it was a past tenant kicking the door in, because at night l would sometimes hear this terrible banging at the front of the house), and the landlord did not fix it for almost 10 days after being informed. During those 10 days we had 2 severe storms, including one which causes loss of life nearby. The house was like being at the seafront on a windy day, the winds were that severe inside the house, and the winds were so severe in the house that the heavy plastic front door was bending, actually bending, in the wind as i tried to close it and uselessly stack the fire extinguisher behind it. The entire hallway was waterlogged from the 2 storms.

After the front door was finally fixed, the front door landing ceiling suddenly collapsed, potentially killing somebody. Chunks were still falling by the time l moved out 2 months later.  Chunks that would not shatter on impact with the floor. This was solid material.

I want compensation for the landlord allowing the ceiling to become mouldy - ventilation issues are subjective. Doubt you'll get compensated.

I am informed by the local university that l have a case for this.
The mould is mould and hence due a rental discount.
Moreover it was caused by a well known problem which meant l originally got a rental discount from the landlord when i first moved in. Then he painted it over and the discount stopped.
Then the mould returned and he did nothing.

I want the landlord jailed for contempt of court, because he engaged in monkey business using various aliases and made patently false claims as part of his money claims - this isn't contempt of court.

He knowingly lied to the court via his Money Claims e.g. in his first Money Claim he said that l had not cleaned the flat in almost 3 years, despite there being about 15 property inspections that failed to pick this up.
He used aliases and thus made his own claims void, in order to bring the 3 Money Claims, making it seem that it's 3 different people 3 different claims, when it was really the same person bringing the same claim thrice.
As l say, it was the same claim each time, which l am told is not actually permitted.

I want the landlord to be forced to remove mention of good ethics from his advertising - extremely unlikely.

As l said in the OP this was not the matter itself, but the takehome pursuant to the matter, which i was asking permission to post.

I want compensation for chronic mental health problems triggered by my dealings with the landlord though i'll admit this will be hard to prove - get legal advice but unlikely

Yes, l agree. It's hard to prove. It's a case of chronic tinnitus which feels like torture on some days.

I want a Civil Restraint Order (CRO) issued against the landlord preventing him in any of his incarnations from issuing further claims against me on this matter - if they have already proposed their deductions then you either go through ADR or the courts.  I see no need for a CRO as they are usually given when a person's application for a court hearing is refused but they won't accept the judge's decision. A CRO then stops that person from re-applying to court.

I don't quite understand how you missed that we've already done DPS, and 3 Money Claims, but yep, it's gone too far, hence l want a CRO, because he was ignoring the judge's decree on the final 2 money claims that the claim is struck out and certified as completely without merit. Each of the Money Claims was pertaining to the exact same matter.

I understand that you're upset and I don't know the full story.  But on the face of it your legal claims about harrassment, wanting compensation, having the landlord's name remove good ethics from advertising and getting CRO's sound very naive. I would advise you to get legal advice and take it.

Give the few details l have shared in this post, would you still say it is naive?

OK, the case seems a little clearer now.  Your deposit is past so ADR isn't an issue.  So you are now going going through the legal action route.

It all sounds very messy and to be honest I don't think a case like this is going to be answered by anyone on here.

I've worked as a property manager and inventory clerk and worked for an online agent which involved reviewing DPS adjudicator's judgments.

But this is way over my head and one for your lawyer.

If anything ever comes from this it will be a Pyrrhic victory. You can detect this is one of those situations where no-one ends up winning or being happy with the outcome. We have an OP who takes great pleasure in inserting adjectives into sentences where they aren't required... to bolster a point through emotion... and even with all this text we don't yet see what the OP wants us to see, which is a 30,000 word essay. If you cannot afford a Solicitor please don't try to freewheel it on the Internet - people giving out proper legal advice for free just isn't going to happen (even if they were qualified), you're clutching at straws through your insanity. As I said and as Inspector has said - this is one for a / your lawyer. It doesn't matter how someone says that to you - it only matters that you pay attention instead of coming back with another 1,000 words on top. Can't you hear the unsaid - "and, with that, I'm out"? - maybe you've heard it so much recently that it doesn't register?

Get your wallet / purse out and start paying someone to advise you, someone who is legally qualified and someone who can back up their advice with something more than IANAL. Do not post your 30,000 word essay here... the precis was easily enough to ascertain your type. Sadly... it's almost universally a fact that the law favours the rich.

Why don't the pair of you do 1? You just speak ill of people that come to the forum for help. I've only been here 3 days and l can see that you're not here for any good purpose, you're trapped in this forum you've built up and have bad ennui, so you just want to use this forum to offload your grief onto others whilst couchlocked, safe in the smell of your internet cubicle.

Please, age gracefully, not like this.

On this thread, you dismissed my case, saying nobody is interested, and then you drew conclusions about it after saying you wouldn't read about it e.g. you tentatively supposed l got a faked Section 21 notice due to rent arrears?

You don't have an actual clue and you are less than helpful.

Please, speak to people the way you would in real life, and l can guarantee if you did, this forum would be much more pleasant because I can guarantee you wouldn't talk this way in real life.

If anything ever comes from this it will be a Pyrrhic victory. You can detect this is one of those situations where no-one ends up winning or being happy with the outcome. We have an OP who takes great pleasure in inserting adjectives into sentences where they aren't required... to bolster a point through emotion... and even with all this text we don't yet see what the OP wants us to see, which is a 30,000 word essay. If you cannot afford a Solicitor please don't try to freewheel it on the Internet - people giving out proper legal advice for free just isn't going to happen (even if they were qualified), you're clutching at straws through your insanity. As I said and as Inspector has said - this is one for a / your lawyer. It doesn't matter how someone says that to you - it only matters that you pay attention instead of coming back with another 1,000 words on top. Can't you hear the unsaid - "and, with that, I'm out"? - maybe you've heard it so much recently that it doesn't register?

Get your wallet / purse out and start paying someone to advise you, someone who is legally qualified and someone who can back up their advice with something more than IANAL. Do not post your 30,000 word essay here... the precis was easily enough to ascertain your type. Sadly... it's almost universally a fact that the law favours the rich.

derp derp ennui ennui
TL / DR
Seriously, l did not read it

I see that Springtime has kindly contacted Mahira to offer advice.With a bit of luck they will go off and have their pity party/ OCD fest together.

boo hoo you're on your way out of this world and you so wish others would feel the misery you're feeling. Oh boo hoo.

Nothing is edited here, unless it's bad / dangerous advice like you just gave someone else on another thread... advising someone who was possibly being harassed by their ex-Landlord to send them SMS kisses to see if there was a potential love interest driving that harassment. Yes, that got deleted. No second thoughts from me.

Your insanity and fighting spirit is all here in this thread, unedited, for all to see. All I've asked is that you refrain from posting a 30,000 word essay. If you decide to post then I will delete it.

Do your worst with unpleasantness (if that helps you out). I can't see that anything you say would follow me. I think what you've said so far is probably your best. Delusions of grandeur do go along with insanity. In my first entry here I only pointed out that it you can't sense your own crazy coming across (like I can) then you obviously are too crazy to realise you're crazy... therefore because you're in so deep, and you're so intent on your course of action, nothing anything anyone says here is likely to change your course... I suggested, still do, you throw some money at this problem... I can only see potential for a professional to advise you (and you'll listen, anything else will be water off a duck's back). When someone has a laundry list like you do of all the things you want to happen (that includes prison time) you realise they're a sandwich short of a picnic. Now I'm your enemy too... just because I tried to shake you out of it.

Soon everyone will be "out to get you".

Waits for reply from the other armchair psychiatrist. Yep, tenants are all mad. Woo.

Yep, tenants are all mad. Woo.

Some people are.

I'm not angry with you for your uncontrolled emotional outbursts, or upset with you in any way for taking me on as an enemy of some kind. I am feeling concern for you and your condition. Have you considered just talking to someone... not a Lawyer, I mean... a different profession? Put the case to one side and try to see how not everything need become a vendetta, learn how to move on with grace. After all, what goes around comes around, right? It's not your job to ensure everyone evil gets their comeuppance.

Don't kid yourself that i'm upset that you're a naysayer. I came here looking mainly for naysaying.

The fact is, though, you're just a very insolent flamer. I don't care that you've assumed the identity of a moderator, l see what you are as l've seen your type in many other corners of the internet.

Just ... go away. Please. You have nothing useful to contribute.

As i say: this thread maxed out without my responding to your input. You have had nothing to do with the matter. You've only stepped in at the end, to repeat previous insults on this same thread.

OK let's agree that, as you say, what goes around comes around.

You can have the last word if you need it.

It is funny, because it is so easy to see even on internet forums/social media, that some people think they are so much more incredibly smarter than everyone else. And how anyone else could not possibly see that, just increases their own narcissistic view of themselves.

The fact someone want to post their own "blog" of 30,000 words to just show how clever they are, and be able to pigeon chest strut around, is outstanding.

Please Springtime - please go down the legal route, and then when you have won, show us that decision and award and impress everyone with your intelligence at being correct all along.

Or as i suspect, you will get nowhere because solicitors, courts and even internet forums are not here to be your friend and stroke your ego. You will get the same short, shrift answers because you are in the wrong.