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« on: January 26, 2020, 11:50:26 PM »

I live in a flat with an intercom system and while it does the job it's clearly from the 80s and very basic in design. No LCD or settings and the volume is very loud and not needed for the space. There is no way to turn if off and sometimes I would like to be able to mute it so I'm not disturbed. This would only be possible with a more modern system so is this something I could ask my landlord to look in to? The buzzers are so loud I can hear the one in the flat below me.
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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2020, 12:39:41 AM »

Everything is accessible. Gently detach it from the wall, remove a wire... silence is golden. Take a picture beforehand so you can reconnect when needed (I mean when you end the tenancy, not when you expect someone to use it to alert you they're there - if you knew that you'd not need it at all and it would be some kind of ESP). Maybe it even has its own thingie on the thingie..? You should check.
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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2020, 01:33:56 AM »

Gently detach it from the wall,

Deary.

You are mocking me with your post and that is not acceptable.Little tinker.
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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2020, 06:52:34 AM »

Ear plugs?
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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2020, 06:54:23 AM »

Noise-cancelling headphones (bonus: it's also a good look at home, makes you seem like you appreciate music - thus learned, only you and we will know there's no music playing)?
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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2020, 06:54:40 AM »

White noise device?
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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2020, 06:54:52 AM »

Brown noise?
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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2020, 06:55:06 AM »

Pink noise?
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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2020, 06:57:58 AM »

At the button end... the bit your visitors press... adhere a sticker - "do not press this, shout up to me instead" - it's a good plan, nothing can go wrong... and almost zero risk of electrocution.
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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2020, 07:08:52 AM »

The general premise is this - of course you can ask your Landlord to look into it, asking is never the problem. Demanding and expecting might be. The Landlord's point of view may well be - the property was let as seen, as-is, and it was your responsibility, at the viewing one presumes you undertook, to ensure the property had the things you wanted, and didn't have the things you didn't want. Coming along [much] later and demanding changes doesn't often work because, whatever you're asking for is going to be >0 effort / cost for the Landlord... and replacing a 'thing' that isn't broken with something considered better (not just newer, for example) is sometimes frowned upon by HMRC... for me I'd expect all flats in the block would have the same gear and I'd be wary of making hardware changes on the whim of a peripatetic Tenant. So... ask away... maybe you will get your longed-for LCD... if not then I'm sure your next property will definitely have it.
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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2020, 01:25:23 AM »

The general premise is this - of course you can ask your Landlord to look into it, asking is never the problem. Demanding and expecting might be. The Landlord's point of view may well be - the property was let as seen, as-is, and it was your responsibility, at the viewing one presumes you undertook, to ensure the property had the things you wanted, and didn't have the things you didn't want. Coming along [much] later and demanding changes doesn't often work because, whatever you're asking for is going to be >0 effort / cost for the Landlord... and replacing a 'thing' that isn't broken with something considered better (not just newer, for example) is sometimes frowned upon by HMRC... for me I'd expect all flats in the block would have the same gear and I'd be wary of making hardware changes on the whim of a peripatetic Tenant. So... ask away... maybe you will get your longed-for LCD... if not then I'm sure your next property will definitely have it.

The general premise is don't take the piss out of people when they have joined your website for a genuine reason and is asking genuine questions  ;D

You have the cheek to call me a troll but how many posts did you just make before giving what you think is some sort of answer. You suggested I 'gently detach it from the wall' without any consideration for electrical current or how it will affect the whole system. I'm looking for advice from responsible people and putting your entertainment before the safety of others isn't helpful. You don't even give any meaningful advice either.It's like ramblings.

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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2020, 09:19:44 AM »

One doubts it is louder than Concorde, is all. One suspects you're prone to hyperbole. You are a delight to mock (remember - I'm laughing with you, not at you). Maybe it's time to move on - this property you're in doesn't seem to meet your standards... I know you have challenges around the 'Deposit' that never existed, but maybe does in the mind of some, but if you think about it and do a little bit of research then maybe a solution will come to light? Don't ever feel you're trapped. Your home should be your sanctuary, not a cage. Ramblings is the nicest thing you've said to me (check out the subtitle of the forum section).
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« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2020, 03:23:02 PM »

There is no way to turn if off and sometimes I would like to be able to mute it so I'm not disturbed.

Surely the whole point of a doorbell is that it disturbs you, whether you're watching telly, doing the hoovering or halfway through writing Kubla Khan. It alerts you to the fact that some Porlock traveller outside is humbly desiring your presence at the door.

How many times a day do you get a caller? Is it really so often as to necessitate the expense and inconvenience of ripping out a perfectly serviceable intercom system and replacing it with a more modern one? That doesn't seem proportionate, even if it were possible to do without also upgrading the system in the common areas.

You could always try knocking up an acoustic hood and hanging it over the unit. It might help.
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« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2020, 04:53:43 PM »

There's so much intermingled stuff to appreciate in a post like this.
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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2020, 01:01:41 AM »

There is no way to turn if off and sometimes I would like to be able to mute it so I'm not disturbed.

Surely the whole point of a doorbell is that it disturbs you, whether you're watching telly, doing the hoovering or halfway through writing Kubla Khan. It alerts you to the fact that some Porlock traveller outside is humbly desiring your presence at the door.

How many times a day do you get a caller? Is it really so often as to necessitate the expense and inconvenience of ripping out a perfectly serviceable intercom system and replacing it with a more modern one? That doesn't seem proportionate, even if it were possible to do without also upgrading the system in the common areas.

You could always try knocking up an acoustic hood and hanging it over the unit. It might help.

I live in a house with three separate flats all managed by the landlord and I live in the top flat. It's like a treehouse and I've enjoyed it for the last few years but my new neighbours downstairs have constant visitors. So my question wasn't really about changing my buzzer (which is a 2 piece of plastic 1980s shit) but all flats so I don't get disturbed when someone visits my neighbour.

It wouldn't be so bad if it was a doorbell sound or Close To You by the Carpenters but it's a deep buzzing sound like a ships horn. I shouldn't be woken up when someone presses the buzzer to my neighbours flat. If the landlord put in a new intercom system all the flats could mute and change settings to our preference and I wouldn't be disturbed by a 1980s buzzer anymore.

I'm talking about very old equipment so there must be newer stuff that can be installed. There are no common areas just one building and three flats with a very old intercom system.
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« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2020, 09:11:11 AM »

Why are you constantly dissembling and changing your story? Be straight with people. People prefer that. I obviously thought you were just an idiot, that's forgivable, but it turns out you're quite sneaky... this isn't acceptable. You can be humorous, combative, resolute, even personal - we don't mind, we can take it, but stop misrepresenting and lying! It's the same as in real life - if you start out by lying it catches up with you as people press on your unbelievable story.

First formal warning!

It becomes clear why you railed so hard against DIY modification suggestions now... if only you'd been honest from the outset you'd not need to waste people's time so much.

Black hole, for sure.

And, finally, you complete ignoramus - if you persuade the Landlord to swap out several perfectly working pieces of equipment for something more appealing to you, which is somehow configurable, then you seem to fail to realise that this could allow your neighbour to turn it up... or change it to a melody you detest (not The Carpenters). Good luck, I'm out...
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« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2020, 11:01:24 AM »

I am just filled with envy.Oh to have so little to worry about in life that these tenant's "problems" have become so pressing.Seriously-get a life Chopin.
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« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2020, 01:12:47 AM »

I am just filled with envy.Oh to have so little to worry about in life that these tenant's "problems" have become so pressing.Seriously-get a life Chopin.

Typical landlord response to say it works so live with it. The intercom system was installed well over 30 years ago so it's not unreasonable to suggest upgrading it.
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« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2020, 02:50:54 PM »

Typical landlord response to say it works so live with it. The intercom system was installed well over 30 years ago so it's not unreasonable to suggest upgrading it.

The house was built over thirty years ago. Would you advocate knocking it down and rebuilding it?*

Do the tenants of the other flats also find the intercom a problem? If so, perhaps you should approach the landlord jointly, and maybe offer to contribute toward the cost of a replacement system. Ultimately, your landlord is running a business, so you need to make a business case for the expenditure. Will it make the flats easier to let out? Will it enable him to charge a higher rent? If not, why should you be his chosen charity?


*And I say this as a landlord with a reputation for pre-emptively ripping out perfectly good boilers every ten years...   ;D
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« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2020, 06:29:22 PM »

I live in a flat with an intercom system and while it does the job it's clearly from the 80s and very basic in design. No LCD or settings and the volume is very loud and not needed for the space. There is no way to turn if off and sometimes I would like to be able to mute it so I'm not disturbed. This would only be possible with a more modern system so is this something I could ask my landlord to look in to? The buzzers are so loud I can hear the one in the flat below me.

Yes you can ask your landlord, yes you can suggest an upgrade with a volume control, you could even ask if it's ok to disconnect it. He or she might not want to do it saying something along the lines of "hey this is the flat I rent out, if you don't like it you don't have to live here".

Personally I would look for a way to keep a good tenant but if it's expensive/problematic etc.. the landlord might not do it

If you can't agree something and it really bothers you, you do have the option to leave. It sounds very minor but I'm sure it bugs you to the extent you think of nothing else. I once lived in a flat where the hourly chiming of a grandfather clock in the flat below woke me up at night. I moved out.
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