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Investing on a budget

Started by jamie, July 21, 2020, 05:26:28 PM

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jamie

Hi all,

I was wondering if there are any methods one could invest £10k-£15k into property and expect a decent return? Preferably it would give a monthly return (just like if I were to rent a property). Also, I was wondering if there are many people who are willing to invest in property but just can't quite afford the £20k mortgage deposit, let alone other costs that come with becoming a landlord? Any advice would be appreciated greatly!  :)

Hippogriff

No. Best to stop dreaming. Firstly, it isn't as lucrative as you probably believe. Secondly, any company, outfit or partnership who will offer you this ability to dip your toe-in will be out to fleece you, big-time. Thirdly, the best way to play in being a Landlord is by having large amounts of capital that you can afford to 'let go' metaphorically... not lose, because it's not the stock market, but say goodbye to... £10,000 to £15,000 doesn't cut it. Fourthly, you should always concentrate on your own home first... if you have a mortgage still, consider overpaying or paying-off... if not, then you should be in a good position to save more to get to where you need to be. Fifthly, as you allude to, there are other costs with becoming a Landlord - once you've bought somewhere you need to have a war-chest for the unknowns... fence falling down (£1,000), boiler giving-up (£2,000), major leak from roof (£?) - you're not in that position. So, best to stop dreaming. Personally, and don't take this as looking-down on you, because it's not and everyone starts somewhere, I see too many people dipping their toes in the water of being a Landlord and getting tired of it all pretty darned quickly... the responsibility, the admin., the constant legislation changes, the tax returns, the Tenant complications (demands)... everyone generally starts with one property, but there are too many people 'playing'... and that brings an image with it of unprofessionalism... not because they're bad Landlords who want to take advantage of Tenants by letting out slum properties, but more because it's not their thing... they actually wanted a passive income and while Landlording can be quite passive... it is not the same as passive. So these Landlords (realising it didn't make them a millionaire) kinda give up on it... and let things slide, and put it on the back-burner.

If you had funds that allowed you to jump into the game more fully, and you wanted to expand and build up a nice portfolio where you would a responsible, possibly full-time, Landlord then I would say - bide your time and jump in if the market sees a nice (?) downturn due to Covid-related distress... and if the Government makes further changes to SDLT out of desperation... but right now, although the market appears depressed, I would urge a level of caution. The time doesn't even feel right to me.

That is my advice. Most people don't take it.

heavykarma

Agree with everything Hippogriff says.This is a time to wait and see.Even before Covid your idea would be unwise.If you have your own place with a mortgage,I would pay some of it off.The most important investment is your own home.If you have any concerns about your job security,I would hang onto the money for now,it could buy you some time.

Sam Bell

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Agree with the above. Best to try and grow the amount you would like to invest as you won't get much with what you currently have. When you have grown your investment, the north is a sensible area to look at as the price of property is a lot lower. i would also think about the style of management when you look to renting it out, if you're keen to manage the property yourself then this can save you a lot of money but make sure you look around when it comes to advertising your property. Otherwise, you could find it sitting empty for longer than you would like, causing you to lose money. Let me know what you decide to do.

jamie

Okay thank you for you advice. I always knew there was no way to get started and buy an entire home by myself with that sort of budget, however I am surprised to find that there aren't any well known business that are able to to give you a monthly share of an income in return for a upfront purchase of a share of that house. Do you know why there is no such thing as that seems to be an easy solution for those who want to own some type of property but can't afford the upfront cost of starting up on their own?  However I am only a novice when it comes to property.

Hippogriff

You can send me £10,000 and I'll use it to buy a bungalow which will bring in £650 per month in rent... as that £10,000 would be around 5% of the purchase price I would be willing to send you more - say 7.5% - so £48.75p each - and every month - until I decide to sell it (it won't be a joint decision as you won't be on the Deeds)... then I'll give you 5% of the sale price - that should be more than your £10,000 (but could be less). Private message me if you still think your idea is good.

You will need to share in the operating and maintenance expenses as they arise.