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Landlord/tenant

Started by Buzzer, February 07, 2021, 08:59:22 PM

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Buzzer

Hi
Don't know if this is in right place or not but looking for someone to give me the legal stance on this if possible. I'm not a landlord but my neighbour is. I'll be brief so
Guy lives next house with parents and his family but on checking the landlords registration website for said address to find out who owns house to make a complaint about anti social behaviour found that guy who lives there is registered as the landlord with a different corresponding address unsure if any rent is paid by parents to him by themselves or housing benefit(they don't work).
So is this legal? I thought u couldn't live In the house u own if u are registered as the landlord or can u register as a landlord but not actually be a landlord that rents out the house and stay in it? And if he is in fact the owner(landlord) and renting to his parents is that legal? Hope that makes sense
Any knowledge appreciated

Hippogriff

What is the "Landlords registration website"?

Who were you going to make a complaint about anti-social behaviour to? The Landlord? I don't believe that's the route you should go... you would normally go via your Local Authority... and, if you accept that, your questions lose some relevance, then, because it'll probably all come out in wash. Are you looking for yet another angle to take?

Remember that a Landlord is not a parent, a carer or responsible for the behaviour of their Tenants in a normal renting situation. A Landlord is not a viable escalation path for a concerned neighbour. Consider the Tenants adults in their own right, people who are responsible for their own behaviour.

Inspector

This doesn't quite add up.

If the owner of the house lives with his parents and charges them rent how is this anybody else's business?

If the people living in a house are being anti-social it's none of anyone else's business really who owns it.  Simply make a complaint to the local authority.

Just sounds like looking into the ownership of the property is the wrong way to go about it all.

heavykarma

You possibly looked at the Land Registry website? There is no such thing as a landlord registry.I am not sure why you are convinced this man is a landlord in any way? How the family work out their finances  between them is their business.If you have a complaint you go directly to the household,and if this does not resolve matters,you contact the council who will follow it up. 

Buzzer

The man who is the owner living in the house is causing the anti social behaviour I've contacted the relevant department who then contacted the owner who told them that he doesn't live there and that he rents the place he told them that he will speak to his tenants (which I know are his parents he never told them his parents where the tenants just like he never told them him and his wife live there also) so basically he told them he would speak to the people causing the anti social behaviour which is pointless because it's himself. Because you have all said there is no landlord register I double checked incase I've looked in the wrong place it's this website https://www.landlordregistrationscotland.gov.uk/ which u them put in the address and it tells you who is the landlord of the property. I firstly looked on that website to find the landlord thinking the people living there where the tenants and find who I could speak to but it turned out the man living there is registered as the landlord. If he just owned the house he wouldn't be registered as a landlord. I just wanted to know if it's legal for a landlord to live in the property with the tenents?

Hippogriff

May I suggest... the issue you wanted addressing was anti-social behaviour... and you are talking to the correct department about that... which you then continue doing if it continues (and you correct them as needed, and gather evidence if possible)... why open up another avenue of investigation unless you're commencing on some vendetta? These processes are in place for good reasons.

Landlords can live with people who pay them money. A Tenancy existing would usually imply the Tenant has exclusive possession... but I'm not sure you can be in a position to know what's been agreed inside four walls.

Buzzer

Thank you for your reply hippogriff...... but I can assure u there is no vendetta or ulterior motive! Ive been to the council like I've said your correct in saying I don't know what's agreed wiring those four walls but like I said he has to the department he doesn't live there and that he rents it to tenants who are not his parents when in fact he does live there and so does his parents when I informed them of this I was told that his tenants ie his parents showed them a tenancy agreement  but didn't tell them he was their son.
Anyway thanks for your help all I wanted to know from a landlord forum was if it was legal to live in property with tenants not lodgers and also if that included family members I know in Scotland you can't let a property to family if they receive help with rent and I know u can't live in a buy to let mortgage. I've tried all other avenues to sort this anti social behaviour but when the perpetrator is saying he doesn't live there he's just the landlord what do I do?? So if I need to report fraud to deal with this then yes I would therefore wanted to know if it was in fact illegal first before proceeding. These neighbours have caused hell if I had just a vendetta then I wouldn't be trying to find out the rules and be going down this route

heavykarma

It should not be of any  relevance to the council whether he is a landlord or not,if he is causing real nuisance to neighbours.Have they addressed the actual issues you complained about? If not,I think your only hope is to get other neighbours to back you up and make a group complaint,or request a mediation service if they have that in Scotland.If you are ever thinking of moving,the fact that you have had this problem would probably have to be disclosed to a potential buyer,so do think of the consequences before escalating things any further. I can understand your frustration,but I think you need to concentrate of the issue that is spoiling life for you,otherwise you risk being branded as someone with a general grudge against this household.   

Hippogriff

And I always thought being anti-social was the norm in Scotland. You learn something every day on here.