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« on: June 25, 2021, 11:17:59 AM »

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Could someone confirm for me please the situation with RCDs.  We have a twenty year old property with a tenant, and one electrician telling us that we have to upgrade our electrics in line with the new EICR certificate rules.  We have another saying we don't and that this is for new properties only.  Could someone clarify because I have read and re-read the section of the law and I am no clearer.  For the EICR do the electrics have to be upgraded to meet new wiring regulations or is that just for new properties?
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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2021, 01:51:57 PM »

Different electricians are in practice interpreting it differently when assessing. Just go with the second and get him to issue the passing EICR report and you're fine.
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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2021, 02:01:46 PM »

I was going to say... you are possibly over-complicating the question (unless you are doing it deliberately because you want to?)? You have two Electricians in front of you - I assume both are prepared to supply you with a EICR marked SATISFACTORY... one by doing some work, one by not... so, if that's your only concern, the choice is simple.

It is the certainly case that all EICRs will be conducted taking into account the latest edition of the electrical regulations... how else could it be done? But it doesn't mean something that was installed some years ago, and was safe then, but now doesn't meet the requirements of the latest edition must therefore be upgraded... these upgrades can be recommended as such, and marked as a C3 on the EICR - improvement recommended. That does not mean the EICR is marked UNSATISFACTORY as a whole.

However, where I wondered if you were deliberately over-complicating, if you are actually wanting to make things better... then it might be wise to contemplate having RCD protection... there's no downside to this obviously, only upside... (well, downside to your purse - not technically I meant)... and you know, in your kind, old, altruistic Landlord heart, that you are making things better and safer for your poor, incompetent, accident-prone Tenants who might find themselves in mortal danger at any second of any day.

An EICR is not retrospective as a general rule... otherwise the municipal dumps would now be overflowing with plastic consumer units.
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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2021, 04:25:51 PM »

Thanks.  No, not trying to overcomplicate things or spend money unnecessarily.  Yes, trying to do the right thing!  I just don't see how one can classify them as C2 and one not mention them at all.  The second came because the first classified things as dangerous which we didn't believe to be so.  And the second didn't even mention them.  So yes, of course go with the easiest/cheapest option where we believe things to be safe.  Just genuinely want to understand the law and the electricians are not helping with that! 
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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2021, 04:37:21 PM »

The conclusion is pretty obvious... they don't fully understand it all either. It's seemingly subjective to the point of being a joke... I've pre-interviewed an Electrician for a set of properties... we agreed plastic consumer boards didn't need replacing, we agreed a new EICR is not needed upon change of Tenant... and then, part way through, he tried to convince me a re-wire was required on the first non-new-build property... the second opinion gave me a SATISFACTORY EICR - turns out the first one came across as a top bloke, but was actually more like a con artist. As Landlords, we are all going to have to have our wits about us... the Electrician population has been clamouring for this for rented properties for years (I find that Tenants don't care one jot; entirely disinterested) and they're not about the waste the opportunity... 2020 and 2021 will go down as good years for Electricians.
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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2021, 04:39:20 PM »

As I said before... RCDs are not a bad thing. So maybe bite the bullet...
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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2021, 06:34:56 PM »

Yes, maybe.  Doesn't give you much confidence really!  Thanks for your thoughts!
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