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if i was writing this as a landlord would you laugh or agree with me?:

email to tenant:
i will not return your £850 deposit for the following reasons:

stains on carpet from check IN are still there. however the lounge is cleaner than when you arrived. it needs to be even cleaner. and please leave it as you found it. ie stained
windows which were dirty on check IN have been left clean
all walls were marked with minor scuffs on check IN, however you have redecorated some areas in a nice clean fresh paint but left some of the original scuffs. i need the whole property redecorating.
the garden which was pretty lame, is still lame, i need you to pay for a professional gardener to make it better, oh and you left behind a compost heap of our overgrown brambles. it needs removing
the kitchen has a hair in the drawer and the sawdust from where i, as the landlord, drilled a hole for the fridge is still there. you must pay for a whole kitchen clean.
and the garage door which was peeling, has been freshly painted. but you used water based paint 3 years ago and i want oil based. so needs redoing.



seriously.. this is what my landlord has basically said to me!!

A Tenant is expected to return the property in the same state as it was when they commenced the tenancy, minus fair wear and tear and any agreed (hopefully documented) alterations (which includes decoration).

It's pretty simple stuff.

If you've gone around painting stuff, without agreement, then the Landlord is perfectly within their rights to object. If you've left your own refuse in the garden (whether lame or not) the Landlord is perfectly within their rights to object.

However, the good part is that your deposit was protected, correct? Just raise a dispute via the Scheme's ADR process... then an objective third party can decide for you. The onus is on the Landlord, not you... so the Landlord can do a load of work for little reward or upside and you can sit back, chuckling.

Start this today...

i got full agreement to redecorate. to put locks on garage door. to freshen up garage doors. to wallpaper a wall.
i do not expect to have to return a wall to a scuffed wall.. and cannot see any arbitration making me do this. surely?
walls were painted originally magnolia. they are magnolia now

i cant upload any pics as they too big. how do i make smaller?

Quote from: Hippogriff on December 11, 2017, 02:11:01 PM
A Tenant is expected to return the property in the same state as it was when they commenced the tenancy, minus fair wear and tear and any agreed (hopefully documented) alterations (which includes decoration).

It's pretty simple stuff.

If you've gone around painting stuff, without agreement, then the Landlord is perfectly within their rights to object. If you've left your own refuse in the garden (whether lame or not) the Landlord is perfectly within their rights to object.

However, the good part is that your deposit was protected, correct? Just raise a dispute via the Scheme's ADR process... then an objective third party can decide for you. The onus is on the Landlord, not you... so the Landlord can do a load of work for little reward or upside and you can sit back, chuckling.

Start this today...

compost heap. not own refuse.

The solution for you is so simple, really...

It's ADR.

Your deposit was protected, correct?

You have no need to be seeking sympathy from like-minded souls on a forum - your choice is simply - cave, or fight. We don't care if the wall was scuffed before and is neat and fresh now - all we care about is what was asked - did you obtain permission to redecorate? If the answer is "yes", as you appear to be saying, you have nothing to worry about. I mean, come on - they were magnolia walls before and are magnolia now - the report of your Landlord asking them to be re-instated to the old magnolia seems almost unbelievable (although there are weirdos out there)... have you, perchance, rubbed someone up the wrong way? ADR will lose you little and possibly teach an unreasonable Landlord a lesson.

Quote from: Hippogriff on December 11, 2017, 02:53:43 PM
The solution for you is so simple, really...

It's ADR.

Your deposit was protected, correct?

You have no need to be seeking sympathy from like-minded souls on a forum - your choice is simply - cave, or fight. We don't care if the wall was scuffed before and is neat and fresh now - all we care about is what was asked - did you obtain permission to redecorate? If the answer is "yes", as you appear to be saying, you have nothing to worry about. I mean, come on - they were magnolia walls before and are magnolia now - the report of your Landlord asking them to be re-instated to the old magnolia seems almost unbelievable (although there are weirdos out there)... have you, perchance, rubbed someone up the wrong way? ADR will lose you little and possibly teach an unreasonable Landlord a lesson.

tis true!