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White goods/ appliances disclaimer

Started by DSHAGENT, February 19, 2015, 05:12:04 PM

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DSHAGENT

Good afternoon

Would anybody have a template for a disclaimer for electrical appliances. I have agreed with my tenant that the appliances provided will not be repaired or replaced during the tenancy but am struggling to word a document to that effect.

Any help would be appreciated


Riptide

I bet you're struggling as I don't think what you want to do is possible.  You could gift them to the tenant so they belong to the tenant so they have to fix them but you can't reserve them for yourself and shirk your responsibility for repairing and replacing them.  Had the same thought crossed your mind regarding the boiler for example, where you supply it but they repair it?

Hippogriff

I ain't gonna help you with this dim-witted idea. Have some self-respect as a Landlord.

DSHAGENT

they are being gifted to the tenant. The boiler is not included, that will be repaired/replaced if necessary

Riptide

Being gifted is fine as long as you're prepared for the T to take their property (their gift) with them at the end of the tenancy.  It sounded like this wasn't the case.

DSHAGENT

I have to say that the posters on this site seem very negative and jump to conclusions. Accused of having no respect without any further clarification seems a bit unnecessary. What happened to polite conversation?

Hippogriff

And you still have to write your own disclaimer.

Riptide

Quote from: DSHAGENT on February 20, 2015, 09:53:42 AM
I have to say that the posters on this site seem very negative and jump to conclusions. Accused of having no respect without any further clarification seems a bit unnecessary. What happened to polite conversation?

Can only go off the info given.  OP said he's supplying the goods and agreed they won't be repaired by him during the tenancy, nothing about gifting.  Just sounded like someone pulling a fast one.

The curtness of some of the replies is down to people posting and never coming back I guess.

boboff

Plus its the same with life.

Some people are nice, friendly, and may or not know shit.

Some people are quite rude, but their advice is priceless.

Some people are quite rude and don't know shit.

(Hippo is the second one! based on experience I may have fallen into the tertiary camp)

mickeyblueyes

I hope this gets read as some time has now elapsed since the OP first wrote. I seem to be having difficulty in understanding and agreeing with so many of your replies to so many of the posts. Don't get me wrong, I'm not questioning the validity of the replies, it's just very eye opening for me and worrying that I too have made so many mistakes.
So regarding this one, it seemed obvious to me that the OP wanted to do a nice nice gesture and leave some white goods in the property for their use, on the understanding that if they were to break the T wouldn't ask for them to be replaced. What is so wrong or dim-witted with that. We don't know what the appliances were, but I can't see why you're comparing them with a boiler. For augments sake, lets assume we're talking about a freezer, toaster, and vacuum cleaner. What was so dim-witted about leaving them for the T to use on the understanding that if they break there is no obligation to replace them.
If you're telling me that the L is risking prosecution if they become faulty and someone is injured, then OK, but just allowing the tenant the use of them, I don't see why it should be such an issue. 

Sltj

Assuming you do not want the White goods, or,indeed be responsible for forking out if they go wrong, yet you want to help the tenants out, sell the items each for £1.00 . Everyone is happy?

The reason I say this is because years ago a cooker went wrong in a property I let.
Rather than mess around I told the tenant to go and buy one up to the value of £500.00. I transfer the money into their account and asked them to refund if there was any change. This saved getting measurements etc and the tenant was happy.

About 18 months later the cooker developed a fault. It was out of warranty. Again I replaced the cooker.
Guess what? It happened the third time, this time I viisted the tenants and found out he was running a little catering company from the property, dilemma?  I had this cooker repaired and sold it to him for £1.00

mickeyblueyes

No, I was thinking on a different line. The appliances are portable and not necessities such as a cooker, for arguments sake we'll say a mini freezer, fridge, and microwave. I don't want to sell the appliances as they are relatively new and may come in handy. I could take them away and store them, or I could ask the tenants if they would like me to use them if they haven't got there own. If they decide to keep them, it is on the understanding that I'm under no obligation to replace them, and likewise, neither do they if or when they break.
This to me seems so simple, why does it have to get complicated by gifting them or insinuating DSHAGENT of shirking and pulling a fast one.