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Hi all,
My tenant gave me notice to leave. He gets part of his rent paid by a charity. He asked me for an invoice to be send to his charity for months that he won't be in the property for. I did not know that he was not going to be in the property at that time, since I had not received the notice, and therefore I gave him the invoice he asked for.
His charity paid me the money up to the months that he won't be in the property for.
When he informed me that he would like to leave, I raised with him the fact that his invoice was for months that he won't be in the property for. Obviously he was being sneaky since he should not have asked for an invoice for months that he knew he was not going to be in the property for.
I asked him to pay me the full rent himself, since I will have to pay the rent back to the charity for the months that he won't be in the property.
Any advise on whether I am forgetting anything?

Thank you

Your post doesn't appear to make sense.
You have money from a charity for a period of time in which their tenant is not in your property.
So you have to pay them back the money? OK so what?

What's the issue?
Why are you asking him for rent in full?

Hello, apologies if it was not clear.

The tenant should only pay the rent for the months that he is at the property. What he did however was to ask the charity for extra money to cover his rent in full - the charity covers half of his rent. So he asked me for an invoice for 4 months whereas he is going to be in the property for only 2. The invoice for the 4 months will fully cover his 2 month rent. So he is not paying me any money of his own at this point, since the charity has paid me . However the charity has paid me for 4 months but he is using this money, so he does not have to pay me any money at all. But the charity will be entitled to ask for a refund for the 2 months that the tenant won't be at my property.

Hope this makes sense?

That makes more sense.
You need to absolve yourself of any perception of wrong doing on your part (collusion with the tenant).
I would recommend that you contact the charity and explain to them what has happened.

Just to check, the charity has not in any way agreed to act as guarantor for the tenant?  That would change the position.

Quote from: theangrylandlord on October 03, 2017, 01:38:36 PM
That makes more sense.
You need to absolve yourself of any perception of wrong doing on your part (collusion with the tenant).
I would recommend that you contact the charity and explain to them what has happened.

Just to check, the charity has not in any way agreed to act as guarantor for the tenant?  That would change the position.

Thanks for the response. No they are not acting as a guarantor.
He knows he is doing the wrong thing at the moment and I don't think he wants me to contact the charity about the invoice since he asked for it whilst knowing he won't be at the property.

Quote from: kesm on October 03, 2017, 12:59:51 PMHope this makes sense?

It doesn't. You said you asked him to pay the full rent himself. But if the Charity pays half then it should be half-half, but only for the time he has possession.

If you received £400 for 4 months from the Charity, and the Tenant will be there for 2 months, then the Charity should get £200 back (from you, assuming it's been paid to you up front). But the Tenant isn't then liable for £400 at that point, just the £200 he always would have been, i.e. 50%.

Does that make sense?

Quote from: Hippogriff on October 03, 2017, 05:27:42 PM

Quote from: kesm on October 03, 2017, 12:59:51 PMHope this makes sense?

It doesn't. You said you asked him to pay the full rent himself. But if the Charity pays half then it should be half-half, but only for the time he has possession.

If you received £400 for 4 months from the Charity, and the Tenant will be there for 2 months, then the Charity should get £200 back (from you, assuming it's been paid to you up front). But the Tenant isn't then liable for £400 at that point, just the £200 he always would have been, i.e. 50%.

Does that make sense?

I get what you are saying. The purpose of my post is on whether I am forgetting something. At the moment my tenant is trying to con me and the charity from the looks of it so I am asking for general advice from the forum.